Problems with a Global Flood
Second Edition
by Mark Isaak
Copyright © 1998
[Last Update: November 16, 1998]
Contents
1. Building
the Ark
2. Gathering the Animals
3. Fitting the Animals Aboard
4. Caring for the Animals
5. The Flood Itself
6. Implications of a Flood
7. Producing the Geological Record
8. Species Survival and Post-Flood Ecology
9. Species Distribution and Diversity
10. Historical Aspects
11. Logical, Philosophical, and
Theological Points
Acknowledgements
Creationist
models are often criticized for being too vague to have any
predictive value. A literal interpretation of the Flood story in
Genesis, however, does imply certain physical consequences which
can be tested against what we actually observe, and the
implications of such an interpretation are investigated below.
Some creationists provided even more detailed models, and these
are also addressed (see especially sections 5 and 7).
References are listed at the end
of each section.
Two kinds of flood model are
not addressed here. First is the local flood.
Genesis 6-8 can be interpreted as a homiletic story such that
the "world" that was flooded was just the area that Noah knew.
Creationists argue against the local flood model because it
doesn't fit their own literalist preconceptions, but I know of
no physical evidence contrary to such a model.
Second, the whole story can be
dismissed as a series of supernatural miracles. There is no way
to contradict such an argument. However, one must wonder about a
God who reportedly does one thing and then arranges every bit of
evidence to make it look like something else happened. It's
entirely possible that a global flood occurred 4000 years ago or
even last Thursday, and that God subsequently erased all the
evidence, including our memories of it. But even if such stories
are true, what's the point?
1. Building the
Ark
Wood is not the best material for
shipbuilding. It is not enough that a ship be built to hold
together; it must also be sturdy enough that the changing
stresses don't open gaps in its hull. Wood is simply not strong
enough to prevent separation between the joints, especially in
the heavy seas that the Ark would have encountered. The longest
wooden ships in modern seas are about 300 feet, and these
require reinforcing with iron straps and leak so badly they must
be constantly pumped. The ark was 450 feet long [
Gen. 6:15]. Could an ark that size be made seaworthy?
2. Gathering the
Animals
Bringing all kinds of animals
together in the vicinity of the ark presents significant
problems.
Could animals have traveled
from elsewhere? If the animals traveled from other parts of
the world, many of them would have faced extreme difficulties.
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Some, like sloths and
penguins, can't travel overland very well at all.
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Some, like koalas and many
insects, require a special diet. How did they bring it
along?
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Some cave-dwelling arthropods
can't survive in less than 100% relative humidity.
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Some, like dodos, must have
lived on islands. If they didn't, they would have been easy
prey for other animals. When mainland species like rats or
pigs are introduced to islands, they drive many indigenous
species to extinction. Those species would not have been
able to survive such competition if they lived where
mainland species could get at them before the Flood.
Could animals have all lived
near Noah? Some creationists suggest that the animals need
not have traveled far to reach the Ark; a moderate climate could
have made it possible for all of them to live nearby all along.
However, this proposal makes matters even worse. The last point
above would have applied not only to island species, but to
almost all species. Competition between species would have
driven most of them to extinction.
There is a reason why Gila
monsters, yaks, and quetzals don't all live together in a
temperate climate. They can't survive there, at least not for
long without special care. Organisms have preferred environments
outside of which they are at a deadly disadvantage. Most
extinctions are caused by destroying the organisms' preferred
environments. The creationists who propose all the species
living together in a uniform climate are effectively proposing
the destruction of all environments but one. Not many species
could have survived that.
How was the Ark loaded?
Getting all the animals aboard the Ark presents logistical
problems which, while not impossible, are highly impractical.
Noah had only seven days to load the Ark (
Gen. 7:4-10). If only 15764 animals were aboard the Ark (see
section 3), one animal must have been loaded every 38 seconds,
without letup. Since there were likely more animals to load, the
time pressures would have been even worse.
3. Fitting the
Animals Aboard
To determine how much space is
required for animals, we must first determine what is a kind,
how many kinds were aboard the ark, and how big they were.
What is a kind?
Creationists themselves can't decide on an answer to this
question; they propose criteria ranging from species to order,
and I have even seen an entire kingdom (bacteria) suggested as a
single kind. Woodmorappe (p. 5-7) compromises by using genus as
a kind. However, on the ark "kind" must have meant something
closer to species for three reasons:
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For purposes of naming
animals, the people who live among them distinguish between
them (that is, give them different names) at roughly the
species level. [Gould, 1980]
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The Biblical "kind,"
according to most interpretations, implies reproductive
separateness. On the ark, the purpose of gathering different
kinds was to preserve them by later reproduction. Species,
by definition, is the level at which animals are
reproductively distinct.
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The Flood, according to
models, was fairly recent. There simply wouldn't have been
time enough to accumulate the number of mutations necessary
for the diversity of species we see within many genera
today.
What kinds were aboard the
ark? Woodmorappe and
Whitcomb & Morris arbitrarily exclude
all animals except mammals, birds, and reptiles. However, many
other animals, particularly land arthropods, must also have been
on the ark for two reasons:
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The Bible says so.
Gen. 7:8 puts on the ark all creatures that move along
the ground, with no further qualifications.
Lev. 11:42 includes arthropods (creatures that "walk on
many feet") in such a category.
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They couldn't survive
outside.
Gen. 7:21-23 says every land creature not aboard the ark
perished. And indeed, not one insect species in a thousand
could survive for half a year on the vegetation mats
proposed by some creationists. Most other land arthropods,
snails, slugs, earthworms, etc. would also have to be on the
ark to survive.
Were dinosaurs and other
extinct animals on the ark? According to the Bible, Noah
took samples of all animals alive at the time of the Flood. If,
as creationists claim, all fossil-bearing strata were deposited
by the Flood, then all the animals which became fossils were
alive then. Therefore all extinct land animals had
representatives aboard the ark.
It is also worth pointing out
that the number of extinct species is undoubtedly greater than
the number of known extinct species. New genera of dinosaurs
have been discovered at a nearly constant rate for more than a
century, and there's no indication that the rate of discovery
will fall off in the near future.
Were the animals aboard the
ark mature? Woodmorappe gets his animals to fit only by
taking juvenile pairs of everything weighing more than 22 lbs.
as an adult. However, it is more likely that Noah would have
brought adults aboard:
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The Bible (Gen.
7:2) speaks of "the male and his mate," indicating that
the animals were at sexual maturity.
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Many animals require the care
of adults to teach them behaviors they need for survival. If
brought aboard as juveniles, these animals wouldn't have
survived.
The last point does not apply to
all animals. However, the animals don't need parental care tend
to be animals that mature quickly, and thus would be close to
adult size after a year of growth anyway.
How many clean animals were on
the ark? The Bible says either seven or fourteen (it's
ambiguous) of each kind of clean animal was aboard. It defines
clean animals essentially as ruminants, a suborder which
includes about 69 recent genera, 192 recent species [Wilson
& Reeder, 1993], and probably a comparable number of extinct
genera and species. That is a small percentage of the total
number of species, but ruminants are among the largest mammals,
so their bulk is significant.
Woodmorappe (p. 8-9) gets around the problem by citing
Jewish tradition which gives only 13 domestic genera as clean.
He then calculates that this would increase the total animal
mass by 2-3% and decides that this amount is small enough that
he can ignore it completely. However, even Jewish sources admit
that this contradicts the unambiguous word of the Bible. [Steinsaltz,
1976, p. 187]
The number and size of clean
birds is small enough to disregard entirely, but the Bible at
one point (Gen.
7:3) says seven of all kinds of birds were aboard.
So, could they all fit? It
is important to take the size of animals into account when
considering how much space they would occupy because the
greatest number of species occurs in the smallest animals.
Woodmorappe performed such an analysis and came to the
conclusion that the animals would take up 47% of the ark. In
addition, he determines that about 10% of the ark was needed for
food (compacted to take as little space as possible) and 9.4%
for water (assuming no evaporation or wastage). At least 25% of
the space would have been needed for corridors and bracing.
Thus, increasing the quantity of animals by more than about 5%
would overload the ark.
However, Woodmorappe makes
several questionable and invalid assumptions. Here's how the
points discussed above affect his analysis. Table 1 shows
Woodmorappe's analysis and some additional calculations.
Table 1: Size analysis
of animals aboard the Ark. Page
numbers refer to Woodmorappe, 1996,
from which the figures in the row are taken. (Minor
arithmetic errors in totals are corrected.) Woodmorappe
treats many animals as juveniles; "yearling" masses are
masses of those animals after one year of growth. "Total
mass after one year" is the maximum load which Woodmorappe
allows for. Additional clean animal figures assume they are
taken aboard by sevens, not seven pairs, and also assume
juvenile animals.
|
Log mass range (g) |
0-1 |
1-2 |
2-3 |
3-4 |
4-5 |
5-6 |
6-7 |
7-8 |
|
|
Ave. mass (kg) (p. 13) |
.005 |
.05 |
.5 |
5 |
50 |
316 |
3160 |
31600 |
|
|
# of mammals (p. 10) |
466 |
1570 |
1378 |
1410 |
1462 |
892 |
246 |
|
7424 |
|
# of birds (p. 10) |
630 |
2272 |
1172 |
450 |
70 |
4 |
|
|
4598 |
|
# of reptiles (p. 10) |
642 |
844 |
688 |
492 |
396 |
286 |
270 |
106 |
3724 |
|
total # of animals |
1738 |
4686 |
3238 |
2352 |
1928 |
1182 |
516 |
106 |
15746 |
|
Ave. yearling mass (kg) (p. 66) |
.005 |
.05 |
.5 |
5 |
10 |
100 |
300 |
1000 |
|
|
Total mass after one year |
8.7 |
234.3 |
1619 |
11760 |
19280 |
118200 |
154800 |
106000 |
411902 |
|
Total mass assuming adults |
8.7 |
234.3 |
1619 |
11760 |
96400 |
373512 |
1630560 |
3349600 |
5463694 |
|
Additional clean birds |
1575 |
5680 |
2930 |
1125 |
175 |
10 |
|
|
11495 |
|
Additional ruminants (138 genera) |
|
|
|
|
260 |
420 |
10 |
|
690 |
|
Additional clean animal mass
(yearling weight, kg) |
8 |
284 |
1465 |
5625 |
4350 |
43000 |
3000 |
|
47600 |
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Collecting each species
instead of each genus would increase the number of
individuals three- to fourfold. The most speciose groups
tend to be the smaller animals, though, so the total mass
would be approximately doubled or tripled.
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Collecting all land animals
instead of just mammals, birds, and reptiles would have
insignificant impact on the space required, since those
animals, though plentiful, are so small. (The problems come
when you try to care for them all.)
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Leaving off the long-extinct
animals would free considerable space. Woodmorappe doesn't
say how many of the animals in his calculations are known
only from fossils, but it is apparently 50-70% of them,
including most of the large ones. However, since he took
only juveniles of the large animals, leaving off all the
dinosaurs etc. would probably not free more than 80% of the
space. On the other hand, collecting all extinct animals in
addition to just the known ones would increase the load by
an unknown but probably substantial amount.
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Loading adults instead of
juveniles as small as Woodmorappe uses would increase the
load 13- to 50-fold.
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Including extra clean animals
would increase the load by 1.5-3% if only the 13 traditional
domestic ruminants are considered, but by 14-28% if all
ruminants are considered clean.
In conclusion, an ark of the size
specified in the Bible would not be large enough to carry a
cargo of animals and food sufficient to repopulate the earth,
especially if animals that are now extinct were required to be
aboard.
References
Gould, Stephen Jay, 1980. A
quahog is a quahog. In The panda's thumb, Norton, New
York.
Steinsaltz, Adin, 1976.
The essential Talmud. Basic books.
Whitcomb, J.C. Jr. & H.M.
Morris, 1961. The Genesis Flood. Presbyterian and
Reformed Publishing Co., Philadelphia PA.
Wilson, D.E. & D.M. Reeder
(eds.), 1993. Mammal species of the world.
Smithsonian Institution Press. (http://www.nmnh.si.edu/msw/)
Woodmorappe, John, 1996.
Noah's Ark: a feasibility study. Institute for Creation
Research, Santee, California.
4. Caring for the
Animals
Special diets. Many
animals, especially insects, require special diets. Koalas, for
example, require eucalyptus leaves, and silkworms eat nothing
but mulberry leaves. For thousands of plant species (perhaps
even most plants), there is at least one animal that eats only
that one kind of plant. How did Noah gather all those plants
aboard, and where did he put them?
Other animals are strict
carnivores, and some of those specialize on certain kinds of
foods, such as small mammals, insects, fish, or aquatic
invertebrates. How did Noah determine and provide for all those
special diets?
Fresh foods. Many animals
require their food to be fresh. Many snakes, for example, will
eat only live foods (or at least warm and moving). Parasitoid
wasps only attack living prey. Most spiders locate their prey by
the vibrations it produces. [Foelix, 1996]
Most herbivorous insects require fresh food. Aphids, in fact,
are physically incapable of sucking from wilted leaves. How did
Noah keep all these food supplies fresh?
Food preservation/Pest
control. Food spoilage is a major concern on long voyages;
it was especially thus before the inventions of canning and
refrigeration. The large quantities of food aboard would have
invited infestations of any of hundreds of stored product pests
(especially since all of those pests would have been aboard),
and the humidity one would expect aboard the Ark would have
provided an ideal environment for molds. How did Noah keep pests
from consuming most of the food?
Ventilation. The ark would
need to be well ventilated to disperse the heat, humidity, and
waste products (including methane, carbon dioxide, and ammonia)
from the many thousands of animals which were crowded aboard.
Woodmorappe (pp. 37-42) interprets
Genesis 6:16 to mean there was an 18-inch opening all around
the top, and says that this, with slight breezes, would have
been enough to provide adequate ventilation. However, the ark
was divided into separate rooms and decks (Gen.
6:14,16). How was fresh air circulated throughout the
structure?
Sanitation. The ungulates
alone would have produced tons of manure a day. The waste on the
lowest deck at least (and possibly the middle deck) could not
simply be pushed overboard, since the deck was below the water
line; the waste would have to be carried up a deck or two.
Vermicomposting could reduce the rate of waste accumulation, but
it requires maintenance of its own. How did such a small crew
dispose of so much waste?
Exercise/Animal handling.
The animals aboard the ark would have been in very poor shape
unless they got regular exercise. (Imagine if you had to stay in
an area the size of a closet for a year.) How were several
thousand diverse kinds of animals exercised regularly?
Manpower for feeding,
watering, etc. How did a crew of eight manage a menagerie
larger and more diverse than that found in zoos requiring many
times that many employees? Woodmorappe claims that eight people
could care for 16000 animals, but he makes many unrealistic and
invalid assumptions. Here are a few things he didn't take into
account:
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Feeding the animals would
take much longer if the food was in containers to protect it
from pests.
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Many animals would have to be
hand-fed.
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Watering several animals at
once via troughs would not work aboard a ship. The water
would be sloshed out by the ship's roll.
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Many animals, in such an
artificial environment, would have required additional
special care. For example, all of the hoofed animals would
need to have their hooves trimmed several times during the
year. [Batten, 1976, pp. 39-42]
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Not all manure could be
simply pushed overboard; a third of it at least would have
to be carried up at least one deck.
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Corpses of the dead animals
would have to be removed regularly.
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Animals can't be expected to
run laps and return to their cages without a lot of human
supervision.
References
Batten, R. Peter, 1976.
Living trophies. Thomas Y. Crowell Co., New York.
Foelix, Rainer F., 1996.
The biology of spiders, 2nd ed., Oxford University
Press, New York. Chpt. 6.
Woodmorappe, John, 1996.
Noah's Ark: a feasibility study. Institute for Creation
Research, Santee, California.
5. The Flood
Itself
Where did the Flood water come
from, and where did it go? Several people have proposed answers
to these questions, but none which consider all the implications
of their models. A few of the commonly cited models are
addressed below.
Vapor canopy. This model,
proposed by Whitcomb & Morris and
others, proposes that much of the Flood water was suspended
overhead until the 40 days of rain which caused the Flood. The
following objections are covered in more detail by
Brown.
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How was the water suspended,
and what caused it to fall all at once when it did?
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If a canopy holding the
equivalent to more than 40 feet of water were part of the
atmosphere, it would raise the atmospheric pressure
accordingly, raising oxygen and nitrogen levels to toxic
levels.
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If the canopy began as vapor,
any water from it would be superheated. This scenario
essentially starts with most of the Flood waters boiled off.
Noah and company would be poached. If the water began as ice
in orbit, the gravitational potential energy would likewise
raise the temperature past boiling.
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A canopy of any significant
thickness would have blocked a great deal of light, lowering
the temperature of the earth greatly before the Flood.
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Any water above the ozone
layer would not be shielded from ultraviolet light, and the
light would break apart the water molecules.
Hydroplate.
Walt Brown's model proposes that the
Flood waters came from a layer of water about ten miles
underground, which was released by a catastrophic rupture of the
earth's crust, shot above the atmosphere, and fell as rain.
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How was the water contained?
Rock, at least the rock which makes up the earth's crust,
doesn't float. The water would have been forced to the
surface long before Noah's time, or Adam's time for that
matter.
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Even a mile deep, the earth
is boiling hot, and thus the reservoir of water would be
superheated. Further heat would be added by the energy of
the water falling from above the atmosphere. As with the
vapor canopy model, Noah would have been poached.
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Where is the evidence? The
escaping waters would have eroded the sides of the fissures,
producing poorly sorted basaltic erosional deposits. These
would be concentrated mainly near the fissures, but some
would be shot thousands of miles along with the water. (Noah
would have had to worry about falling rocks along with the
rain.) Such deposits would be quite noticeable but have
never been seen.
Comet. Kent Hovind
proposed that the Flood water came from a comet which broke up
and fell on the earth. Again, this has the problem of the heat
from the gravitational potential energy. The water would be
steam by the time it reached the surface of the earth.
Runaway subduction. John
Baumgardner created the runaway subduction model, which proposes
that the pre-Flood lithosphere (ocean floor), being denser than
the underlying mantle, began sinking. The heat released in the
process decreased the viscosity of the mantle, so the process
accelerated catastrophically. All the original lithosphere
became subducted; the rising magma which replaced it raised the
ocean floor, causing sea levels to rise and boiling off enough
of the ocean to cause 150 days of rain. When it cooled, the
ocean floor lowered again, and the Flood waters receded.
Sedimentary mountains such as the Sierras and Andes rose after
the Flood by isostatic rebound. [Baumgardner,
1990a; Austin et al., 1994]
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The main difficulty of this
theory is that it admittedly doesn't work without miracles.
[Baumgardner, 1990a,
1990b] The thermal
diffusivity of the earth, for example, would have to
increase 10,000 fold to get the subduction rates proposed [Matsumura,
1997], and miracles are also necessary to cool the new
ocean floor and to raise sedimentary mountains in months
rather than in the millions of years it would ordinarily
take.
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Baumgardner estimates a
release of 1028 joules from the subduction
process. This is more than enough to boil off all the
oceans. In addition, Baumgardner postulates that the mantle
was much hotter before the Flood (giving it greater
viscosity); that heat would have to go somewhere, too.
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Cenozoic sediments are
post-Flood according to this model. Yet fossils from
Cenozoic sediments alone show a 65-million-year record of
evolution, including a great deal of the diversification of
mammals and angiosperms. [Carroll, 1997,
chpts. 5, 6, & 13]
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Subduction on the scale
Baumgardner proposes would have produced very much more
vulcanism around plate boundaries than we see. [Matsumura,
1997]
New ocean basins. Most
flood models (including those above, possibly excepting
Hovind's) deal with the water after the flood by proposing that
it became our present oceans. The earth's terrain, according to
this model, was much, much flatter during the Flood, and through
cataclysms, the mountains were pushed up and the ocean basins
lowered. (Brown proposes that the cataclysms were caused by the
crust sliding around on a cushion of water; Whitcomb & Morris
don't give a cause.)
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How could such a change be
effected? To change the density and/or temperature of at
least a quarter of the earth's crust fast enough to raise
and lower the ocean floor in a matter of months would
require mechanisms beyond any proposed in any of the flood
models.
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Why are most sediments on
high ground? Most sediments are carried until the water
slows down or stops. If the water stopped in the oceans, we
should expect more sediments there. Baumgardner's own
modeling shows that, during the Flood, currents would be
faster over continents than over ocean basins [Baumgardner,
1994], so sediments should, on the whole, be removed
from continents and deposited in ocean basins. Yet sediments
on the ocean basin average 0.6 km thick, while on continents
(including continental shelves), they average 2.6 km thick.
[Poldervaart, 1955]
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Where's the evidence? The
water draining from the continents would have produced
tremendous torrents. There is evidence of similar flooding
in the Scablands of Washington state (from the draining of a
lake after the breaking of an ice dam) and on the far
western floor of the Mediterranean Sea (from the ocean
breaking through the Straits of Gibralter). Why is such
evidence not found worldwide?
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How did the ark survive the
process? Such a wholesale restructuring of the earth's
topography, compressed into just a few months, would have
produced tsunamis large enough to circle the earth. The
aftershocks alone would have been devastating for years
afterwards.
References
Austin, Steven A., John R.
Baumgardner, D. Russell Humphreys, Andrew A. Snelling, Larry
Vardiman, & Kurt P. Wise, 1994. Catastrophic plate
tectonics: a global flood model of earth history.
Proceedings of the third international conference on
creationism, technical symposium sessions, pp. 609-621.
Brown, Walt, 1997. In the
beginning: compelling evidence for creation and the Flood.
(www.creationscience.com/onlinebook)
Baumgardner, John R., 1990a.
Changes accompanying Noah's Flood. Proceedings of the
second international conference on creationism, vol. II,
pp. 35-45.
Baumgardner, John R., 1990b.
The imparative of non-stationary natural law in relation to
Noah's Flood. Creation Research Society Quarterly
27(3): 98-100.
Baumgardner, John R., 1994.
Patterns of ocean circulation over the continents during
Noah's Flood. Proceedings of the third international
conference on creationism, technical symposium sessions,
pp. 77-86.
Carroll, Robert L., 1997.
Patterns and processes of vertebrate evolution,
Cambridge University Press.
Matsumura, Molleen, 1997.
Miracles in, creationism out: "The geophysics of God".
Reports of the National Center for Science Education
17(3): 29-32.
Poldervaart, Arie, 1955.
Chemistry of the earth's crust. pp. 119-144 In: Poldervaart,
A., ed., Crust of the Earth, Geological Society of
America Special Paper 62, Waverly Press, MD.
Whitcomb, J.C. Jr. & H.M.
Morris, 1961. The Genesis Flood. Presbyterian and
Reformed Publishing Co., Philadelphia PA.
6. Implications
of a Flood
A global flood would have produce
evidence contrary to the evidence we see.
How do you explain the
relative ages of mountains? For example, why weren't the
Sierra Nevadas eroded as much as the Appalachians during the
Flood?
Why is there no evidence of a
flood in ice core series? Ice cores from Greenland have been
dated back more than 40,000 years by counting annual layers. [Johnsen
et al, 1992,; Alley et al, 1993] A
worldwide flood would be expected to leave a layer of sediments,
noticeable changes in salinity and oxygen isotope ratios,
fractures from buoyancy and thermal stresses, a hiatus in
trapped air bubbles, and probably other evidence. Why doesn't
such evidence show up?
How are the polar ice caps
even possible? Such a mass of water as the Flood would have
provided sufficient buoyancy to float the polar caps off their
beds and break them up. They wouldn't regrow quickly. In fact,
the Greenland ice cap would not regrow under modern (last
10 ky) climatic conditions.
Why did the Flood not leave
traces on the sea floors? A year long flood should be
recognizable in sea bottom cores by (1) an uncharacteristic
amount of terrestrial detritus, (2) different grain size
distributions in the sediment, (3) a shift in oxygen isotope
ratios (rain has a different isotopic composition from
seawater), (4) a massive extinction, and (n) other characters.
Why do none of these show up?
Why is there no evidence of a
flood in tree ring dating? Tree ring records go back more
than 10,000 years, with no evidence of a catastrophe during that
time. [Becker & Kromer, 1993;
Becker et al, 1991;
Stuiver et al, 1986]
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Alley, R. B., D. A. Meese, C.
A. Shuman, A. J. Gow, K.C. Taylor, P. M. Grootes, J. W. C.
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Zielinski, 1993. Abrupt increase in Greenland snow
accumulation at the end of the Younger Dryas event.
Nature 362: 527-529.
Becker, B. & Kromer, B.,
1993. The continental tree-ring record - absolute
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Becker, B., Kromer, B. &
Trimborn, P., 1991. A stable-isotope tree-ring timescale of
the late glacial Holocene boundary. Nature 353
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Johnsen, S. J., H. B.
Clausen, W. Dansgaard, K. Fuhrer, N. Gundestrap, C. U.
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Steffensen, 1992. Irregular glacial interstadials recorded
in a new Greenland ice core. Nature 359: 311-313.
Stuiver, Minze, et al, 1986.
Radiocarbon age calibration back to 13,300 years BP and the
14 C age matching of the German Oak and US bristlecone pine
chronologies. IN: Calibration issue / Stuiver, Minze, et
al., Radiocarbon 28(2B): 969-979.
7. Producing the
Geological Record
Most people who believe in a
global flood also believe that the flood was responsible for
creating all fossil-bearing strata. (The alternative, that the
strata were laid down slowly and thus represent a time sequence
of several generations at least, would prove that some kind of
evolutionary process occurred.) However, there is a great deal
of contrary evidence.
Before you argue that fossil
evidence was dated and interpreted to meet evolutionary
assumptions, remember that the geological column and the
relative dates therein were laid out by people who believed
divine creation, before Darwin even formulated his theory. (See,
for example, Moore [1973], or the closing
pages of Dawson [1868].)
Why are geological eras
consistent worldwide? How do you explain worldwide agreement
between "apparent" geological eras and several different
(independent) radiometric and nonradiometric dating methods?
[e.g., Short et al, 1991]
How was the fossil record
sorted in an order convenient for evolution? Ecological
zonation, hydrodynamic sorting, and differential escape fail to
explain:
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the extremely good sorting
observed. Why didn't at least one dinosaur make it to the
high ground with the elephants?
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the relative positions of
plants and other non-motile life. (Yun,
1989, describes beautifully preserved algae from Late
Precambrian sediments. Why don't any modern-looking plants
appear that low in the geological column?)
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why some groups of organisms,
such as mollusks, are found in many geologic strata.
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why organisms (such as
brachiopods) which are very similar hydrodynamically (all
nearly the same size, shape, and weight) are still perfectly
sorted.
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why extinct animals which
lived in the same niches as present animals didn't survive
as well. Why did no pterodons make it to high ground?
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how coral reefs hundreds of
feet thick and miles long were preserved intact with other
fossils below them.
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why small organisms dominate
the lower strata, whereas fluid mechanics says they would
sink slower and thus end up in upper strata.
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why artifacts such as
footprints and burrows are also sorted. [Crimes
& Droser, 1992]
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why no human artifacts are
found except in the very uppermost strata. If, at the time
of the Flood, the earth was overpopulated by people with
technology for shipbuilding, why were none of their tools or
buildings mixed with trilobite or dinosaur fossils?
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why different parts of the
same organisms are sorted together. Pollen and spores are
found in association with the trunks, leaves, branches, and
roots produced by the same plants [Stewart,
1983].
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why ecological information is
consistent within but not between layers. Fossil pollen is
one of the more important indicators of different levels of
strata. Each plant has different and distinct pollen, and,
by telling which plants produced the fossil pollen, it is
easy to see what the climate was like in different strata.
Was the pollen hydraulically sorted by the flood water so
that the climatic evidence is different for each layer?
How do surface features appear
far from the surface? Deep in the geologic column there are
formations which could have originated only on the surface, such
as:
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Rain drops. [Robb,
1992]
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River channels. [Miall,
1996, especially chpt. 6]
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Wind-blown dunes. [Kocurek
& Dott, 1981; Clemmenson &
Abrahamsen, 1983; Hubert & Mertz,
1984]
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Beaches.
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Glacial deposits. [Eyles
& Miall, 1984]
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Burrows. [Crimes
& Droser, 1992; Thackray, 1994]
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In-place trees. [Cristie
& McMillan, 1991]
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Soil. [Reinhardt
& Sigleo, 1989; Wright, 1986,
1994]
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Desiccation cracks. [Andrews,
1988; Robb, 1992]
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Footprints. [Gore,
1993, has a photograph (p. 16-17) showing dinosaur
footprints in one layer with water ripples in layers above
and below it. Gilette & Lockley, 1989, have several more
examples, including dinosaur footprints on top of a coal
seam (p. 361-366).]
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Meteorites and meteor
craters. [Grieve, 1997;
Schmitz et al, 1997]
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Coral reefs. [Wilson,
1975]
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Cave systems. [James
& Choquette, 1988]
How could these have appeared in
the midst of a catastrophic flood?
How does a global flood
explain angular unconformities? These are where one set of
layers of sediments have been extensively modified (e.g.,
tilted) and eroded before a second set of layers were deposited
on top. They thus seem to require at least two periods of
deposition (more, where there is more than one unconformity)
with long periods of time in between to account for the
deformation, erosion, and weathering observed.
How were mountains and valleys
formed? Many very tall mountains are composed of sedimentary
rocks. (The summit of Everest is composed of deep-marine
limestone, with fossils of ocean-bottom dwelling crinoids [Gansser,
1964].) If these were formed during the Flood, how did they
reach their present height, and when were the valleys between
them eroded away? Keep in mind that many valleys were clearly
carved by glacial erosion, which is a slow process.
When did granite batholiths
form? Some of these are intruded into older sediments and
have younger sediments on their eroded top surfaces. It takes a
long time for magma to cool into granite, nor does granite erode
very quickly. [For example, see Donohoe &
Grantham, 1989, for locations of contact between the South
Mountain Batholith and the Meugma Group of sediments, as well as
some angular unconformities.]
How can a single flood be
responsible for such extensively detailed layering? One
formation in New Jersey is six kilometers thick. If we grant 400
days for this to settle, and ignore possible compaction since
the Flood, we still have 15 meters of sediment settling per
day. And yet despite this, the chemical properties of the
rock are neatly layered, with great changes (e.g.) in percent
carbonate occurring within a few centimeters in the vertical
direction. How does such a neat sorting process occur in the
violent context of a universal flood dropping 15 meters of
sediment per day? How can you explain a thin layer of high
carbonate sediment being deposited over an area of ten thousand
square kilometers for some thirty minutes, followed by thirty
minutes of low carbonate deposition, etc.? [Zimmer,
1992]
How do you explain the
formation of varves? The Green River formation in Wyoming
contains 20,000,000 annual layers, or varves, identical to those
being laid down today in certain lakes. The sediments are so
fine that each layer would have required over a month to settle.
How could a flood deposit
layered fossil forests? Stratigraphic sections showing a
dozen or more mature forests layered atop each other--all with
upright trunks, in-place roots, and well-developed soil--appear
in many locations. One example, the Joggins section along the
Bay of Fundy, shows a continuous section 2750 meters thick
(along a 48-km sea cliff) with multiple in-place forests, some
separated by hundreds of feet of strata, some even showing
evidence of forest fires. [Ferguson, 1988.
For other examples, see Dawson, 1868;
Cristie & McMillan, 1991;
Gastaldo, 1990;
Yuretich, 1994.] Creationists point to logs sinking in a
lake below Mt. St. Helens as an example of how a flood can
deposit vertical trunks, but deposition by flood fails to
explain the roots, the soil, the layering, and other features
found in such places.
Where did all the heat go?
If the geologic record was deposited in a year, then the events
it records must also have occurred within a year. Some of these
events release significant amounts of heat.
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Magma. The geologic
record includes roughly 8 x 1024 grams of lava
flows and igneous intrusions. Assuming (conservatively) a
specific heat of 0.15, this magma would release 5.4 x 1027
joules while cooling 1100 degrees C. In addition, the heat
of crystallization as the magma solidifies would release a
great deal more heat.
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Limestone formation.
There are roughly 5 x 1023 grams of limestone in
the earth's sediments [Poldervaart,
1955], and the formation of calcite releases about
11,290 joules/gram [Weast, 1974, p.
D63]. If only 10% of the limestone were formed during the
Flood, the 5.6 x 1026 joules of heat released
would be enough to boil the flood waters.
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Meteorite impacts.
Erosion and crustal movements have erased an unknown number
of impact craters on earth, but Creationists Whitcomb and
DeYoung suggest that cratering to the extent seen on the
Moon and Mercury occurred on earth during the year of Noah's
Flood. The heat from just one of the largest lunar impacts
released an estimated 3 x 1026 joules; the same
sized object falling to earth would release even more
energy. [Fezer, pp. 45-46]
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Other. Other possibly
significant heat sources are radioactive decay (some
Creationists claim that radioactive decay rates were much
higher during the Flood to account for consistently old
radiometric dates); biological decay (think of the heat
released in compost piles); and compression of sediments.
5.6 x 1026 joules is
enough to heat the oceans to boiling. 3.7 x 1027
joules will vaporize them completely. Since steam and air have a
lower heat capacity than water, the steam released will quickly
raise the temperature of the atmosphere over 1000 C. At these
temperatures, much of the atmosphere would boil off the Earth.
Aside from losing its atmosphere,
Earth can only get rid of heat by radiating it to space, and it
can't radiate significantly more heat than it gets from the sun
unless it is a great deal hotter than it is now. (It is very
nearly at thermal equilibrium now.) If there weren't many
millions of years to radiate the heat from the above processes,
the earth would still be unlivably hot.
As shown in section 5, all the
mechanisms proposed for causing the Flood already provide more
than enough energy to vaporize it as well. These additional
factors only make the heat problem worse.
How were limestone deposits
formed? Much limestone is made of the skeletons of zillions
of microscopic sea animals. Some deposits are thousands of
meters thick. Were all those animals alive when the Flood
started? If not, how do you explain the well-ordered sequence of
fossils in the deposits? Roughly 1.5 x 1015 grams of
calcium carbonate are deposited on the ocean floor each year. [Poldervaart,
1955] A deposition rate ten times as high for 5000 years
before the Flood would still only account for less than 0.02% of
limestone deposits.
How could a flood have
deposited chalk? Chalk is largely made up of the bodies of
plankton 700 to 1000 angstroms in diameter [Bignot,
1985]. Objects this small settle at a rate of .0000154
mm/sec. [Twenhofel, 1961] In a year
of the Flood, they could have settled about half a meter.
How could the Flood deposit
layers of solid salt? Such layers are sometimes meters in
width, interbedded with sediments containing marine fossils.
This apparently occurs when a body of salt water has its
fresh-water intake cut off, and then evaporates. These layers
can occur more or less at random times in the geological
history, and have characteristic fossils on either side.
Therefore, if the fossils were themselves laid down during a
catastrophic flood, there are, it seems, only two choices:
(1) the salt layers were themselves laid down at the same time,
during the heavy rains that began the flooding, or
(2) the salt is a later intrusion. I suspect that both will
prove insuperable difficulties for a theory of flood deposition
of the geologic column and its fossils. [Jackson
et al, 1990]
How were sedimentary deposits
recrystallized and plastically deformed in the short time since
the Flood? The stretched pebble conglomerate in Death Valley
National Monument (Wildrose Canyon Rd., 15 mi. south of Hwy.
190), for example, contains streambed pebbles metamorphosed to
quartzite and stretched to 3 or more times their original
length. Plastically deformed stone is also common around salt
diapirs [Jackson et al, 1990].
How were hematite layers laid
down? Standard theory is that they were laid down before
Earth's atmosphere contained much oxygen. In an oxygen-rich
regime, they would almost certainly be impossible.
How do you explain fossil
mineralization? Mineralization is the replacement of the
original material with a different mineral.
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Buried skeletal remains of
modern fauna are negligibly mineralized, including some that
biblical archaeology says are quite old - a substantial
fraction of the age of the earth in this diluvian geology.
For example, remains of Egyptian commoners buried near the
time of Moses aren't extensively mineralized.
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Buried skeletal remains of
extinct mammalian fauna show quite variable mineralization.
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Dinosaur remains are often
extensively mineralized.
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Trilobite remains are usually
mineralized - and in different sites, fossils of the same
species are composed of different materials.
How are these observations
explained by a sorted deposition of remains in a single episode
of global flooding?
How does a flood explain the
accuracy of "coral clocks"? The moon is slowly sapping the
earth's rotational energy. The earth should have rotated more
quickly in the distant past, meaning that a day would have been
less than 24 hours, and there would have been more days per
year. Corals can be dated by the number of "daily" growth layers
per "annual" growth layer. Devonian corals, for example, show
nearly 400 days per year. There is an exceedingly strong
correlation between the "supposed age" of a wide range of
fossils (corals, stromatolites, and a few others -- collected
from geologic formations throughout the column and from
locations all over the world) and the number of days per year
that their growth pattern shows. The agreement between these
clocks, and radiometric dating, and the theory of superposition
is a little hard to explain away as the result of a number of
unlucky coincidences in a 300-day-long flood. [Rosenberg
& Runcorn, 1975; Scrutton, 1965;
Wells, 1963]
Where were all the fossilized
animals when they were alive?
Schadewald [1982] writes:
"Scientific creationists
interpret the fossils found in the earth's rocks as the
remains of animals that perished in the Noachian Deluge.
Ironically, they often cite the sheer number of fossils in
'fossil graveyards' as evidence for the Flood. In
particular, creationists seem enamored by the Karroo
Formation in Africa, which is estimated to contain the
remains of 800 billion vertebrate animals (see Whitcomb and
Morris, p. 160; Gish, p. 61). As pseudoscientists,
creationists dare not test this major hypothesis that all of
the fossilized animals died in the Flood.
"Robert E. Sloan, a
paleontologist at the University of Minnesota, has studied
the Karroo Formation. He asserts that the animals fossilized
there range from the size of a small lizard to the size of a
cow, with the average animal perhaps the size of a fox. A
minute's work with a calculator shows that, if the 800
billion animals in the Karoo formation could be resurrected,
there would be twenty-one of them for every acre of land on
earth. Suppose we assume (conservatively, I think) that the
Karroo Formation contains 1 percent of the vertebrate [land]
fossils on earth. Then when the Flood began, there must have
been at least 2100 living animals per acre, ranging from
tiny shrews to immense dinosaurs. To a non-creationist mind,
that seems a bit crowded."
A thousand kilometers' length of
arctic coastal plain, according to experts in Leningrad,
contains about 500,000 tons of tusks. Even assuming that
the entire population was preserved, you seem to be saying that
Russia had wall-to-wall mammoths before this "event."
Even if there was room physically
for all the large animals which now exist only as fossils, how
could they have all coexisted in a stable ecology before the
Flood? Montana alone would have had to support a diversity of
herbivores orders of magnitude larger than anything now
observed.
Where did all the organic
material in the fossil record come from? There are 1.16 x 1013
metric tons of coal reserves, and at least 100 times that much
unrecoverable organic matter in sediments. A typical forest,
even if it covered the entire earth, would supply only 1.9 x 1013
metric tons. [Ricklefs, 1993, p. 149]
How do you explain the
relative commonness of aquatic fossils? A flood would have
washed over everything equally, so terrestrial organisms should
be roughly as abundant as aquatic ones (or more abundant, since
Creationists hypothesize greater land area before the Flood) in
the fossil record. Yet shallow marine environments account for
by far the most fossils.
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8. Species
Survival and Post-Flood Ecology
"He blotted out every living
thing that was upon the face of the ground," the Bible says (Gen
7:23). If the Flood was as described, that must have been an
understatement.
How did all the modern plant
species survive?
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Many plants (seeds and all)
would be killed by being submerged for a few months. This is
especially true if they were soaked in salt water. Some
mangroves, coconuts, and other coastal species have seed
which could be expected to survive the Flood itself, but
what of the rest?
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Most seeds would have been
buried under many feet (even miles) of sediment. This is
deep enough to prevent spouting.
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Most plants require
established soils to grow--soils which would have been
stripped by the Flood.
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Some plants germinate only
after being exposed to fire or after being ingested by
animals; these conditions would be rare (to put it mildly)
after the Flood.
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Noah could not have gathered
seeds for all plants because not all plants produce seeds,
and a variety of plant seeds can't survive a year before
germinating. [Garwood, 1989;
Benzing, 1990;
Densmore & Zasada, 1983] Also, how
did he distribute them all over the world?
How did all the fish
survive? Some require cool clear water, some need brackish
water, some need ocean water, some need water even saltier. A
flood would have destroyed at least some of these habitats.
How did sensitive marine life
such as coral survive? Since most coral are found in shallow
water, the turbidity created by the runoff from the land would
effectively cut them off from the sun. The silt covering the
reef after the rains were over would kill all the coral. By the
way, the rates at which coral deposits calcium are well known,
and some highly mature reefs (such a the great barrier) have
been around for millions of years to be deposited to their
observed thickness.
How did diseases survive?
Many diseases can't survive in hosts other than humans. Many
others can only survive in humans and in short-lived arthropod
vectors. The list includes typhus, measles, smallpox, polio,
gonorrhea, syphilis. For these diseases to have survived the
Flood, they must all have infected one or more of the eight
people aboard the Ark.
Other animals aboard the ark must
have suffered from multiple diseases, too, since there are other
diseases specific to other animals, and the nonspecific diseases
must have been somewhere.
Host-specific diseases which
don't kill their host generally can't survive long, since the
host's immune system eliminates them. (This doesn't apply to
diseases such as HIV and malaria which can hide from the immune
system.) For example, measles can't last for more than a few
weeks in a community of less than 250,000 [Keeling
& Grenfell, 1997] because it needs nonresistant hosts to
infect. Since the human population aboard the ark was somewhat
less than 250,000, measles and many other infectious diseases
would have gone extinct during the Flood.
Some diseases that can affect a
wide range of species would have found conditions on the Ark
ideal for a plague. Avian viruses, for example, would have
spread through the many birds on the ark. Other plagues would
have affected the mammals and reptiles. Even these plague
pathogens, though, would have died out after all their
prospective hosts were either dead or resistant.
How did short-lived species
survive? Adult mayflies on the ark would have died in a few
days, and the larvae of many mayflies require shallow fresh
running water. Many other insects would face similar problems.
How could more than a handful
of species survive in a devastated habitat? The Flood would
have destroyed the food and shelter which most species need to
survive.
How did predators survive?
How could more than a handful of the predator species on the ark
have survived, with only two individuals of their prey to eat?
All of the predators at the top of the food pyramid require
larger numbers of food animals beneath them on the pyramid,
which in turn require large numbers of the animals they prey on,
and so on, down to the primary producers (plants etc.) at the
bottom. And if the predators survived, how did the other animals
survive being preyed on?
How could more than a handful
of species survive random influences that affect populations?
Isolated populations with fewer than 20 members are usually
doomed even when extraordinary measures are taken to protect
them. [Simberloff, 1988]
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9. Species
Distribution and Diversity
How did animals get to their
present ranges? How did koalas get from Ararat to Australia,
polar bears to the Arctic, etc., when the kinds of environment
they require to live doesn't exist between the two points. How
did so many unique species get to remote islands?
How were ecological
interdependencies preserved as animals migrated from Ararat?
Did the yucca an the yucca moth migrate together across the
Atlantic? Were there, a few thousand years ago, unbroken giant
sequoia forests between Ararat and California to allow
indigenous bark and cone beetles to migrate?
Why are so many animals found
only in limited ranges? Why are so many marsupials limited
to Australia; why are there no wallabies in western Indonesia?
Why are lemurs limited to Madagascar? The same argument applies
to any number of groups of plants and animals.
Why is inbreeding depression
not a problem in most species? Harmful recessive alleles
occur in significant numbers in most species. (Humans have, on
average, 3 to 4 lethal recessive alleles each.) When close
relatives breed, the offspring are more likely to be homozygous
for these harmful alleles, to the detriment of the offspring.
Such inbreeding depression still shows up in cheetahs; they have
about 1/6th the number of motile spermatozoa as domestic cats,
and of those, almost 80% show morphological abnormalities. [O'Brien
et al, 1987] How could more than a handful of species
survive the inbreeding depression that comes with establishing a
population from a single mating pair?
Reference
O'Brien, S. J., D. E. Wildt,
M. Bush, T. M. Caro, C. FitzGibbon, I. Aggundey & R. E.
Leakey, 1987. East African cheetahs: Evidence for two
population bottlenecks? Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA
84: 508-511.
10. Historical
Aspects
Why is there no mention of the
Flood in the records of Egyptian or Mesopotamian civilizations
which existed at the time? Biblical dates (I
Kings 6:1,
Gal 3:17, various generation lengths given in Genesis) place
the Flood 1300 years before Solomon began the first temple. We
can construct reliable chronologies for near Eastern history,
particularly for Egypt, from many kinds of records from the
literate cultures in the near East. These records are
independent of, but supported by, dating methods such as
dendrochronology and carbon-14. The building of the first temple
can be dated to 950 B.C. +/- some small delta, placing the Flood
around 2250 B.C. Unfortunately, the Egyptians (among others)
have written records dating well back before 2250 B.C. (the
Great Pyramid, for example dates to the 26th century B.C., 300
years before the Biblical date for the Flood). No sign in
Egyptian inscriptions of this global flood around 2250 B.C.
How did the human population
rebound so fast? Genealogies in Genesis put the Tower of
Babel about 110 to 150 years after the Flood [Gen
10:25,
11:10-19]. How did the world population regrow so fast to
make its construction (and the city around it) possible?
Similarly, there would have been very few people around to build
Stonehenge and the Pyramids, rebuild the Sumerian and Indus
Valley civilizations, populate the Americas, etc.
Why do other flood myths vary
so greatly from the Genesis account? Flood myths are fairly
common worldwide, and if they came from a common source, we
should expect similarities in most of them. Instead, the myths
show great diversity. [Bailey, 1989,
pp. 5-10; Isaak, 1997] For example,
people survive on high land or trees in the myths about as often
as on boats or rafts, and no other flood myth includes a
covenant not to destroy all life again.
Why should we expect Genesis
to be accurate? We know that other people's sacred stories
change over time [Baaren, 1972] and
that changes to the Genesis Flood story have occurred in later
traditions [Ginzberg, 1909;
Utley, 1961]. Is it not reasonable to
assume that changes occurred between the story's origin and its
being written down in its present form?
References
Baaren, Th. P., 1972. The
flexibility of myth. Studies in the History of Religions,
22: 199-206. Reprinted in Dundes, A. (ed), 1984, Sacred
Narrative, University of California Press, Berkeley.
Bailey, Lloyd R., 1989.
Noah: the person and the story in history and tradition.
University of South Carolina Press, SC.
Ginzberg, Louis, 1909. The
Legends of the Jews, vol. 1, pp. 145-169, Jewish
Publication Society of America, Philadelphia. Reprinted as
"Noah and the Flood in Jewish legend" in: Dundes, Alan
(ed.), 1988. The Flood Myth, University of California
Press, Berkeley and London, pp. 319-336.
Isaak, Mark, 1997. Flood
stories from around the world.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faq/flood-myths.html.
Utley, Francis Lee, 1961.
Internationaler Kongress der Volkserzä in Kiel und
Kopenhagen, pp. 446-463, Walter De Gruyter, Berlin.
Reprinted as "The Devil in the Ark (AaTh 825)" in: Dundes,
Alan (ed.), 1988. The Flood Myth, University of
California Press, Berkeley and London, pp. 337-356.
11. Logical,
Philosophical, and Theological Points
Are flood models consistent
with the Bible? Creationists who write about the Flood often
contradict the very story they're trying to support. For
example, Whitcomb & Morris [1961, p. 69n]
suggest that large numbers of kinds of land animals became
extinct because of the Flood, while Genesis repeatedly says that
Noah was ordered to take a representative sample of all kinds of
land animals on the Ark to save them from extinction, and that
Noah did as ordered. Woodmorappe
[1996, p. 3] wants to leave invertebrates (i.e., just about
"every creeping thing on the ground") off the ark. Why should we
give credence to a story whose most ardent supporters abandon
when it's inconvenient?
Genesis 6-8 speaks only of rain,
fountains, and a flood; it makes no mention of other
catastrophies which many Creationists associate with the Flood.
Their proposed Flood models not only contradict geology, they
have no Biblical support, either.
How can a literal
interpretation be appropriate if the text is self-contradictory?
Genesis 6:20 and
7:14-15 say there were two of each kind of fowl and clean
beasts, yet
Genesis 7:2-3,5 says they came in sevens.
How can a literal
interpretation be consistent with reality? How could Noah
have gathered male and female of each kind [Gen.
7:15-16] when some species are asexual, others are
parthenogenic and have only females, and others (such as
earthworms) are hermaphrodites? And what about social animals
like ants and termites which need the whole nest to survive?
Why stop with the Flood story?
If your style of Biblical interpretation makes you take the
Flood literally, then shouldn't you also believe in a flat and
stationary earth? [Dan.
4:10-11,
Matt. 4:8,
1 Chron. 16:30,
Psalms 93:1, ...]
In fact, is there any reason
at all why the Flood story should be taken literally? Jesus
used parables; why wouldn't God do so, too?
Does a global flood make the
whole Bible less credible? Davis Young,
an Evangelical and geologist, wrote [p. 163]:
"The maintenance of modern
creationism and Flood geology not only is useless
apologetically with unbelieving scientists, it is harmful.
Although many who have no scientific training have been
swayed by creationist arguments, the unbelieving scientist
will reason that a Christianity that believes in such
nonsense must be a religion not worthy of his interest. . .
. Modern creationism in this sense is apologetically and
evangelistically ineffective. It could even be a hindrance
to the gospel.
"Another possible danger is
that in presenting the gospel to the lost and in defending
God's truth we ourselves will seem to be false. It is time
for Christian people to recognize that the defense of this
modern, young-Earth, Flood-geology creationism is simply not
truthful. It is simply not in accord with the facts that God
has given. Creationism must be abandoned by Christians
before harm is done. . . ."
Another Christian scientist said,
"Creationism is an incredible pain in the neck, neither honest
nor useful, and the people who advocate it have no idea how much
damage they are doing to the credibility of belief." [quoted in
Easterbrook, 1997, p. 891]
Does the Flood story indicate
an omnipotent God?
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If God is omnipotent, why not
kill what He wanted killed directly? Why resort to a
roundabout method that requires innumerable additional
miracles?
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The whole idea was to rid the
wicked people from the world. Did it work?
Finally, even if the flood
model weren't riddled by all these problems, why should we
accept it? What it does attempt to explain is already
explained far more accurately, consistently, and thoroughly by
conventional geology and biology, and the flood model leaves
many other things unexplained, even unexplainable. How is flood
geology useful?
References
Easterbrook, Gregg, 1997.
Science and God: a warming trend? Science 277:
890-893.
Whitcomb, J.C. Jr. & H.M.
Morris, 1961. The Genesis Flood. Presbyterian and
Reformed Publishing Co., Philadelphia PA.
Woodmorappe, John, 1996.
Noah's ark: A feasibility study. Institute for Creation
Research, Santee, California.
Young, Davis, 1988.
Christianity and the Age of the Earth. Artisan Sales,
Thousand Oaks, CA.
Acknowledgements
I thank the following people for
their contributions and helpful comments, and I thank and
apologize to any other contributers whom I have inadvertently
forgotten.
Ken Fair, Bob Grumbine, Joel J.
Hanes, Paul V. Heinrich, Bill Hyde, William H. Jefferys, Andrew
MacRae, Thomas Marlowe, Glenn R. Morton, Chris Nedin, Kevin L.
O'Brien, Chris Stassen, Frank Steiger.
Other Links:
-
Problems with a Global Flood?
- Jonathan Sarfati of
Answers in Genesis provides a rebuttal for this article
for the
True.Origins Archive.
-
More Nonsense on "True.Origins"
- Kevin Henke gives a response to Sarfati
at
Greene's Creationism Truth Filter
-
The Miracle of Noah's Ark
- "Arkeologist" Ron Wyatt claims to have
discovered the remains of Noah's Ark on Mt. Ararat. This web
site contains photographs of what is purported to be the
Ark.
-
Wyatt Archaelogical Research Fraud
Documentation
- Wyatt's claims are debunked.
-
Creation Science and Earth History
- A collection of devastating essays
attacking flood geology and young-earth creationism.
Found at:
http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
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